Chinese but pretty

[SRXweb]

I don't know if it's imported in England : http://www.watabike.com/watabike/details/49/27/ace/moto-skyteam-ace-125cc.html?lang=fr

[Richard]

Reminiscent of the old Honda 125 racer.  Pretty, modernised.  Needs lower bars.

[guest295]

Er, no, the old Honda 125 (CB92R) was a SOHC twin. This is a single, and appears to be a pushrod engine like the CG125. No racer, then.

[Richard]

Its the styling, the styling.  Fairly obviously not the engine !

[SRXweb]

Copy of Honda 50 dream, for the styling

[guest7]

Honda made a replica too didn't they? I seem to recall it cost a bomb.

They pop up in the bike classifieds for £3k plus.

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[guest40]

SRXweb is right on.

[guest40]

Very very similar
I want one

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[SRXweb]

Do you mean you wish to have a Honda Dream or a Skyteam Ace ?

A Honda Dream costs an eye (in France we also often say : "it costs the skin of your ass" ; sorry for this detail  ), but it runs like a horse.

Very interesting little bike.

[johnr]

the honda dream 50 is a stunning bike, reputedly built and sold at a loss by the race workshops at hrc, every one is hand assembled and tuned, theyre toy like and lovely things, but i think they will be better finished than the chinese copy

[guest40]

The dream  the dream, The other one could be a Chinese nightmare

[SRXweb]

It could qualified most of chinese bikes or scooters, almost for engine parts.... but the chineses learn and run fast.

One day they will build cars that will pass the crash test, and reliable engines.

[Richard]

I seem to recall a time when we said the same of Japanese cars and motorcycles, or fighter aircraft now I think of it......

[SRXweb]

Chinese people are faster than Japanese in industrial process. They are very eager to eat the world.

Japanese fighters were very manoeuvrable but were poor in pilote protection. They were'nt abble to support the gun power and the speed of american fighters, very big structure around very big engine. These guys in the cockpit, wherever they were born, had big balls. And what about the boys in bomber planes ?

Back to the chinese, they soon will be abble to build planes because of the industrial transfer of our european plane builder : Airbus (I live near Toulouse in France and people here believe that Airbus is a french firm. How wrong they are).

Do you want to make your next trip in a chinese plane ?

[Richard]

Slight drift here but it is fun.

My understanding was that Japanese fighter aircraft came as a nasty surprise at the beginning of the war and that the gap in certain performance aspects - pilot protection for one - only became apparent as the war went on.  I have seen some rather impressive Japanese fighter designs late in the war of which few were built for obvious reasons.  Perhaps the detail could wait for another thread - all those beautiful engine noises 

I suspect that there will come a time when you may well be flying in a Chinese aircraft, just not yet.  There again you would obviously rather ride a reliable BSA 650 twin than a dodgy Honda made of monkey metal, they will never last you know